Abuse of alcohol is not consistent with a spiritually mature lifestyle. Smoking is legal, but people die from it. Its similarly interesting how people choose which laws & pieces of the Bible they will follow. HONESTY One of the marks of integrity is honesty. Additionally, using any source (such as D.A. Just my humble, unbiased opinion; take it or leave it. Yes, the limitations on personal freedoms were sometimes onerous, but the tradeoffs, IMO, make the typical American college experience pale in comparison. Also, youre a little too sarcastic in your sentences. 2 min read. Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. Whoever wrote this had the facts waaaay off about Liberty U. Maybe this list should just be 10 Strict Christian Colleges? Not sure why you find prohibition of Occult practices to be a bad thing for those attending a Christian university. At BJU I just couldnt get any action as the boys are all homosexual or want to be. God didnt make us to reject each other. Oh, Im sorry, you must know so much more than the current students and those who have graduated and are leading great lives. We are also warned to be careful about what we approve and to seek each others mutual edification. Carson, writing for what is arguably Cedarvilles favorite theology blog The Gospel Coalition, writes, one should not confuse the logic of 1 Corinthians 8 with the stance that finds a strong legalist saying to a believer who thinks that eating meat offered to idols is acceptable, You may think that such action is legitimate, but every time you do it you are offending meand since you are not permitted to offend me, therefore you must not engage in that activity.. The main thing I learned from my year there was how to be sneaky. He transferred to public school where he had no friends and even less support and encouragement from faculty/students, and two months later he shot himself. The school has a religious affiliation with the Baptist faith. This is EXTREMELY uninformed. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth. In addition, attendance at parties, clubs, casinos, restaurants, and bars is expressly prohibited except when no alcohol is present. What do the students do when theyre not in classes? She ate me out the first week I was there and gifted me with my first strap on fucking a few weeks latter. Secondly, it promulgates the idea that women's bodies are shameful and ought to be covered up. So teach us to number our days that we may get a heart of wisdom. However, responsible use is not sinful, which is our primary point in this article. everybody who reads this will be without excuse when they get o the Great White Throne judgment before God. Absolutely true! The school even governs how students are to go about their off-campus employment as well. -Underage gambling is also against the law (and also gives into the sin of greed) Both Testaments contain warnings concerning the use and specific instruction regarding the sinful abuse of alcohol. They do not require church service, but Convocations on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays are compulsory for the entire student body. Look at history. Emergency personnel respond to a shooting at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan, U.S., February 13, 2023. Okay, I am here just to argue about one thing. Students caught engaging in premarital, extramarital, and homosexual behavior face the risk of being expelled completely from Dallas Christian College as well. I was there when the movie came out, and I remember some other students calling me unspiritual because I chose not to watch the movie with them. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal." This article reads like it was written by a the assistant editor of my high school newsletter with a skewed agenda and out dated infobut I enjoyed it. The problems arise when we disregard our fellow believers who are of weaker conscience. If a student applies and is admitted to one of the educational institutions it is safe to assume that theyve read and have agreed to the guidelines. Please, be wise! I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. In fact, Amos 9:14 says, I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit.. Since, as was noted in the introduction, it usually remains the students choice to partake of such environments, I dont think that we can disapprove of these schools on ethical or legal grounds. L, 8-10. I graduated from ORU, great school! Movies again, the handbook gave the wrong message. We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. Same reason why youre allowed to practice pretty much any religion and go here. Therefore, students are encouraged to portray servant attitudes toward Christ and other people in their dress and appearance. First, he writes that something that can be disputed does not make it a theologically disputed doctrine. Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. You are loved. All serious and dastardly crimes against the institution. Which brings up the question Why go there if you dont fit? For any college that you are considering, know before you go. From my experience, most fundy kids figure this out a few years later than everyone else and finally start making decisions for themselves. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. Choose this day whom you will serve, and if you will serve the Lord, beware, lest you make the grace of our God into Lasciviousness. Ten. Where did you get your information? Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. Third, many of these rules ban things that arent dangerous (eg dancing, scary or violent movies, and sex so long as the people involved know what they are doing and all proper precautions are used) and that are a lot of fun. Those who attend any religious school, on their own desire, will attend one in line with their personal religious beliefs. I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. he would allow an environment that would dishonor the name of Christ. Some people feel safer if there isnt a lot of drinking and other rowdiness going on. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. In addition, all students enrolled in 12 or more hours are required to attend at least one chapel event a week. Minor infractions include borrowing and not attending chapel and group devotions on a regular basis. when they prohibit homosexuality while prohibiting interaction with the opposite sex. In addition, they must refrain from participating in any pro-gay demonstrations or distribute literature involving equal marital and legal rights for their community. If you honestly think that the way these colleges are conducting themselves and imposing religion upon students is a good thing, well then I dont know. The bible is the guideline to these rules. However, writing an article does not constitute its topic being a massive social issue. Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. Listed below are several principles that support and guide our approach to alcohol and are informed by the following Scripture texts: Prov. If you want to be a Christian, go to a Christian school if possible. It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. Rebecca There is little finacial aid available in my opinion and the finacial aid people were less than helpful. I dont think that students are better off if they attend these schools. PERSONAL CARE AND RESPONSIBILITY All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. For example, skirts/dresses should fall mid-thigh, midriff and underwear should not show, leggings/tights should have a skirt, dress, or shirt over top that falls mid-thigh (except during exercise), and shirts should not be low-cut and should have modest straps. Violations of these guidelines may result in dismissal. Theres a long thread on the forums at home-school.com about Pensacola Christian College by a former student who thinks its a cult, and its not accredited. Students are not to attend bars or clubs where alcohol is the primary feature. Nearly 70 percent of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. Theese rules are ridiculous, esp. My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. Woah this blog is magnificent i like reading your posts. and everyone is a sinner, but it is much better to have standards (standing for something morally Jerry, Im sorry you and your wife had problems at Asbury. Also, the writer makes it sound as if the faculty of these schools were placing the students under arbitrary rules that go beyond reason. I know several students who attended these schools and went nuts due to teh strictness of the rules.alot of them transferred to Liberty. Required fields are marked *. To write that students are fully aware of the rules is a twist of the truth and reality. Most are Christians, majority of them from teh south and alot of them are athletes. Since Asbury, I dont believe that she has read one new such book. Were MADE in Gods image, and so the things we feel and do were felt by God first! They understandably discourage illegal and discourteous behaviors such as excessive drunkenness, but generally harmless actions like possessing legal pornography, moderate drinking, disciplined gambling, dancing, sensuality, premarital sex, and homosexuality all remain condemned and held up as just as harmful to young, educated minds. Your argument is no better than saying something is right because its in Mein Kampf or saying that Western values are wrong because they upset Osama bin Laden so much he destroyed some buildings. Its not as strict as its portrayed here. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. Please reply, This is not a comment, but a request. Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? Youre not supposed to be having sex in the first place, for one. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Sobering truth of Cedarvilles Archaic Prohibition Rules. It is NOT frowned upon if you do not attend other Christian things like church simply suggested. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. All appeals for Involuntary AdministrativeWithdrawal should be addressed to the Vice President for Student Life and Christian Ministries within 48 hours of the decision. I dont know what they are trying to prove by stating the fact that The Passion was rated R for violence in their description. The only strict rule they have is drinking and they wont kick you out if they find out you drank. If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. However, the rule only worked one way. I imagine that most people know about the tendency of people who live in extremely sheltered and restrictive environments to go wild as soon as these restrictions are removed and they realise how much freedom they have, because they never learnt self-control. 3) If God destroyed a city because there were some gay people there, the takeaway shouldnt be that homosexuality is wrong, the takeaway should be that the Old Testament God is an evil monster who at best needs to be disobeyed and at worst needs to be destroyed. Honesty, refraining from causing harm to others, community, and staying within the laws of the home country all remain relatively reasonable and universal codes that give students structure while still preserving their individuality and bolstering their character. But unless you go, you cant mock it because you havent even been there or checked it out. Especially for women it was very restrictive. Above all, we pray God would be honored by our deliberations and actions. 20:1; Prov. Geez. I would love to have continued healthy dialogue about issues such as these, but in person. To offer a different perspective, I graduated from Asbury in the 90s, lived by the rules, and benefited from being part of a voluntary community that generally did the samenot out of fear or self-righteousness, but because of the high value they placed on faith and community. Probably not. The school works to develop what God has put into someone, unlike schools like the Ohio State University, which declared to my entering class their goal to fail you in your first year. Here are private colleges that want to set Guys did not have to accept dates with interested women. Social and dance clubs as well face quite a bit of consternation. As for chapel, yeah, its mandatory. That basically means being a jackass and expressing your self is better than being idiotic enough to try to stop them because of the First Amendment. According to a blog post made last November by the school president Dr. Thomas White, and referring to Philippians 4:8 (which honors "whatever is pure"), Cedarville will soon institute a new. By banning both entirely harmless things (eg violent movies) and more harmful things (eg smoking, alcohol without moderation) with the same strictness, these schools create an awful situation where students who have the intelligence and insight necessary to see that the ban on the harmless items is a load of rubbish may likewise think that the harmful things will be OK, too. I would not refer it to anyone!!!! Sickening!!! Furthermore, the views expressed in this article certainly do not represent those of Cedarville University. Amos prophecy describes the restoration of Gods people as involving drinking wine. All of which are traditional dances and (in my opinion) in no way put the dancers morality and purity at risk. Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. Welcome to a place where Gods very attributes are slandered and blasphemed. You arent allowed to have any music by a contemporary artist or anything with even the slightest beat. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. Writing articles about what you disagree with regarding the university isnt really helpful to anyone. Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. Students are not allowed to use, purchase, share, or possess alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, or any illegal drug on or off campus. I agree that drinking alcohol responsibly is not a sin and there should be no shame in that.