We have missing indigenous girls all the time around the Reservation , its like a hunting ground for the sex trade. Parking, utilities, exterior, etc. Anyone who might remember me can email me I would love to hear from you all. I only say that cause I think he was from LA like you said. I cant remember if we did that every day or not but thats when I played basketball and would drink out of this spring fed faucet that was always surrounded by bees which tripped me out because they would never sting you.then back to class. These fools knocked on his door and the guy was like what the fuck do u want in a deep voice and they just apologized said they were looking for one of the students because he is missing and plane is about to take off. Many allegations of abuse, as well as Social Services complaints and lawsuits have been leveled at Cameron Pullan and his brother Chaffin Pullan. Respect family .it sucked but I found ways to make it fun. For some reason I have the discovery seminar in a binder I have yet to destroy. During the program, I remember being told of Wwasps sterling success rate. http://chaffinpullanismarvelous.weebly.com/ if so i remember when they moved him.. No one knew what to expect. I was only 15. Its been years since Ive even thought about this. He was one of the good ones in the jr. Staff. They told me it was a Cat 4 and I needed to be removed to intervention. that is hilarious! They have a program called Youth Foundation also doing business as Riverview. I visited Amazon to see if there was an audio version because its hard for me to make time to read, and I am trying to educate myself on different approaches to improving my husbands and my relationship with our 16 1/2 year-old daughter. That morning we drove deeper and deeper and higher and higher into the forest on a mountainside. No one gets what happened at SCL. Buy the way I live in Florida. Your own little Yellowstone in Big Sky, Montana on stunning 20 acres. Im really trying to find a Trauma and PTSD therapist right now possibly a psych who is already educated on Spring Creek / WWASP. I was the kid that got messed with. As a result frostbite. Tanner, the ranch manager, was beyond hospitable, caring, and accommodating. I stole and drove the van into Trout Creek one night with 4 or 5 passengers. That is why I am so thankful for this page. It's nestled between the Absaroka and Gallatin Mountain ranges providing not only world class fishing, but also unrivaled breathtaking views. The pit with Tom Sawyer and huckleberry Finn. That place did way more harm than good. Exceptional elk hunting & resident elk herd consisting of hundreds of elk offering hunters both archery & rifle opportunities. He was a good friend to me and if it wasnt for him I might not have made it out that place. I never even made it to level 3 I didnt want it. Do you honestly think Mike Linderman is all that bad? This place was a crock. Montana Fly Fishing Ranch - Odell Spring Creek Ranch in Ennis, Montana 100 pristine acres - flyfisherman's dream One family owned for 150 Years Rarely fished, two flat water streams Odell & Bear Creek Build your own lodge $40,000 annual Income old duplex from FF clients $2.6 mil 1 of a kind Call Fred Goffstein 307-690-9499 Show Sheet Options include diverse lodging packages, camping trips, wilderness horse pack expeditions, day trips and world wide travel. like the old CAT TWOs and stuff? I heard a rumor that they couldnt restrain you if you were naked, so I tried it. Merry Christmas homie I self correct I mean uhh and happy new year. As a staff member I was discouraged by the facility to form friendships with the girls. Galt Ranch spans 248,023 acres in White Sulphur Springs, Montana. I think he walked out. Those asshole twins never submitted them. From Another SOLD Parent I was brought to Spring Creek Lodge sometime in late 2007 in a van full of other kids. I enjoyed reading through all of these comments because it has been a long time since I have connected with the memories of this place. I am wondering if anyone knew my brother, Kareem Rahman. Kids were shivering cold, teeth chattering. It was attached to another dorm by a door, but we werent allowed to talk to the girls living there. I told my mom I didnt want to see the counselor again and thank God they didnt make me go back. I simply went looking for updates on Spring Creek and was shocked to find this. I always felt like she wanted me to fail. Devin was the stocky short guy. I was sent away because I was a less than desirable child to have in your home. Now, im a 30 year old man.31 in 2 months and to this day (13 years later) I plan to go back and visit. All of these world-class services can vouch for the amazing fishery at McCoy Spring Creek Ranch. The service requires full JavaScript support in order to view this website. The next morning when I discovered the missing glove and found it frozen to the ground, my hand quickly turned into a frozen claw that wouldnt move. It sucked when you had to lug that thing around. My name is Stephanie Hudson and i went to Spring Creek Lodge in 1999-2000. I know alot of crazy shit happened in both of those places. I did survival challenger in Montana. I couldnt take it. Moose, Bighorn sheep and Rocky Mountain goat are also found in the area. So in all, it was 2 vs 6. Here is a picture of my ugly mug from work. They beat us, starved us, humiliated us and made us walk through 10 degree weather in our boxers and flip flops. Friends of mine like little Doug, John H., Eugene, and countless others endured unspeakable abuse at the hands of Lichfield led psychopathic, Mormon, disciplinarian sadists like Chaffin Pullan, his brother Cameron, Duane Smotherman, not to mention the lower level rapist night watchmen and junior staff. This exceptional fishery supports a wild population of brown, cutthroat and rainbow trout in its approximately 3-mile length. Its been a long time, but it would be nice to make life a little worse for the sycophantic freaks that ran that place and all the others. in 2010, a program of the same name as the Pullans program in utah, RiverView Academy, was opened in Thompson by Mickey Manning and his wife Lorne. What is their to do to be active in lawsuits? this is what his daughters made for him but reading it def makes me think he made it for himself!! I think I met you in a seminar where they made us stick stickers on boys and made us think about all the times the opposite sex screwed us over? Mike was my therapist for over 2 years. The Pullansserved as owners and administrators of the SCL facility until 2009, when the school was closed. Get the latest updates and new property listings from Fay Ranches The C Lazy G Ranch, also known in the sporting world as the McCoy Spring Creek Ranch, is located near Dillon in Montanas fabled Beaverhead Valley. I then had a yes or no conversation about how if I got to the level where they would let me visit home. My pleas to come home or to be allowed to move in with my best friend in Los Angeles were met with program lingo i.e. I remember one time near the end of my program i got dropped from level 3 allstar to level 1. Horror stories from the incoming junior staff from Samoaone guy said they locked him a trunk and floated him at sea, then threw rocks at the trunk while he was inside of it. It was 1996. So I dropped out in the 10th grade. I was in Courage family with him when I first went to SCL. Just pretty much running a muck. Were you from AZ. I just found out about this place. Its really disheartening to hear about the shared hopelessness we all felt. Have some more koolaid commys.. Main water features of Lewistown Area include Crystal Lake, Judith River, Missouri River, Big Spring Creek, Warm Spring Creek, and Ft. Peck Lake. We were just kids after all. These locations are operated by professional third-party food contractors and their operating systems do not currently offer guests . Good luck to you. Just listen to what she has to say and let her know that you are aware of the treachery of WWASPs as a business and the individuals who received a paycheck from them. I know I felt it and I wouldnt wish that on anyone. That place ruined me. I am so sorry to hear about Josh. The surrounding porches provide ideal places to enjoy long summer evenings. I cant even imagine the intolerable conditions with those racist, unethical, monsters! Id like all of u to realize if you got sent here its your own doing. Maybe youve heard of those schools where they pick you up in the middle of the night and you disappear. Creek Wilderness Camp in the spring of 1989 for two months. I remember working in the kitchen as often as possible because we could cut up and have a good time. He was my bunk mate upstairs in Grizzly. They finally brought us to a camp in a valley near the school where we were to meet our parents for more therapy. Hi Susan Lambert, I did was in this whole new place with a few people I knew and a ton of people I didnt and I had to be an upper level and consequence people and play the game of accountability and all that. I heard you had a baby a while back! Located in the upper Blackfoot Valley near the gateway into the Bob Marshall Wilderness, the 1,185 acre Nevada Spring Creek Ranch features a dynamic blend of water resources including over 5 miles of a restored Spring Creek, nearly 6 miles of Nevada Creek--a major tributary of the upper Blackfoot River--and hundreds of acres of pristine wetland habitat. Damn that hell hole. Good job!!! Then they finally let me talk to my mother. Please enable cookies on your browser and try again. What an awesome lady. it was hilarious but annoying. Those kids deserved that, they asked for it. Mine was ground level on the girls side appropriately entitled: Serenity. Ive been to two . I was 14. Other than the wolf dog and the couple of friends I made, that place was a nightmare. After spending 4 months in spring creek HELL, luckily I turned 18 & demanded to leave. Mike Linderman deserves to be in jail. WTF a boy of 16 with his sex drive in high gear being called a sex addict for kissing a girl. I spent the majority of my time in the intervention room. Parr hall. $347,500 dollars later and im worse off then i ever thought or my mom thought id be. Megan, do you remember me? At that point i stop caring cause i was about to go home anyway. Hit me up shelbymorgan47@yahoo.com, I was also in spring creek lodge back in 97 for 6 weeks. My last meal was an egg mcmuffin. While most kids our age were learning about respect from their fathers, how to flirt with girls and going to proms, we missed all of that. Transfered to spring creek and was kicked out in june of 99. My father has worked in two different homes since the closing of this school. It didnt start feeling like a cult till I went to my first seminar where you couldnt pass unless you forced yourself to cry. I then began my life in the program. This marine wiuld loveeeeee to meet up with colby. Literally in front of my huge work truck. After sitting in isolation for about 3 weeks I was finally back to my next way out of here. ;-p. Yeh like Waddup? Loved many of them. I went to Clearview Horizon Academy in May of 2014, worked my ass off thanks to him, and graduated in October of 2015. They humiliated me on purpose for furthering the breaking down process of their mental conditioning. survived BOB. I couldnt speak of it in detail until a few years ago. I recognize a lot of names from this thread but without last names and faces it is tough to place everyone. Showers sucked as well. I will make it to California within the next 2 days. Narvin. All of you have BRVs lol remember remember the fifth of November!! The rivers, streams and lakes of Yellowstone National Park hold a special place in the hearts of many anglers. (john H, Myles, Eugene..etc) what a trip ANd all of your stories are hauntingly familiar.times and memories i had locked up deep down to forget about i mean what good did gravel pit do? No one deserved that treatment and lies. In a perfect world these bastards would be in prison. This is the shit that bugged me out about this place you had kids trying to be super cops to other kids. When I got home I looked up the school online. Lets just say I had to play the game to get my life back. 5 months in the wilderness then committed, year and more. I made the mistake of crossing the jr. Staff at a facility meeting for abuse and was relegated to level 3 status no matter how much time I spent as family leader and asst. To those of you who bled and cried with us through gravel pits and focus seminars (lifeboat process ) I love you and if we unite against these bastards in a mature and orderly fashion, we can give them the coups de grace that they need. Get Out of Your Shit. Looked official. We were all coming from Sky View Christian Academy, which was a WWASP program in Hawthorne, NV that was forced to close because of a handful of lawsuits/complaints. I had good morals. i was looking for ashley in particular, who was there at the same time, in a different family and was kicked out and sent to Idaho with me. We were denied simple foods and forced to build snares to catch rodents for food. My married name is lori kinder. Anybody remember that kid Torrey? If not you have no right or idea what you are talking about. I grew somewhat accustomed to the monotony, floating through the same day over and over and over again. Leonard Spring Creek is located on a private ranch near Twin Bridges, MT. I had questions: non of them got answered. I was only 13 stil in middle school. @sirroderickciff345 Blessings to you all. Montana is home to some of the most productive wild trout rivers on the planet. I have those same dreams. When referring to the kids she never used we. My son never progressed in the levels and he talked about the hobbit but I had no idea how awful it was. Central Montana has a wide variety of outdoor recreation. I was strip-searched upon arrival. I was one of the guys that learned real quick what a joke this place was,you had kids in the program trying to be super cops for whatever reason. I started out as night staff and then switched over to day staff. The Chaffin Twins, Mickey, the connection to Utah, Jamaica all the Missoulian news paper articles. Dont get me wrong this place was fucked up From the top down. Hell, I would bet just about everyone on this site is more qualified than these Utardssorry Utahns. Are there any accounts of Chaffin or Cameron molesting kids? There is no wrong or right only what works This phrase still haunts me to this day. Internet Karen types. WILL OPEN AGAIN APRIL 21st , 2023. I didnt remember you but that friends group you mention put you right in the i fucked with everyone because i felt superior and the staff rewarded yall. And boy that is not a fun experience. There was an older main teacher there who kinda looked like Santa Claushi name was Ken, I think. I was in respect with you bro. 4th generation owners Daryl & Theresa Smith welcome you to enjoy DePuy Spring Creek, a world-class trout fishery nestled between the breathtaking vistas of the Absaroka and Gallatin mountain ranges in beautiful Paradise Valley south of Livingston, Montana. That was Eugene, or am I trippin? Singing Gregorian chants in the hobbit hole. They are trying to lease the old Diamond Ranch property, but it seems that they are broke. If u didnt get anything out of the program its your own doing. I thought I was doing the right thing. Just as I am leaving Heron, I see an older lady fast walking to catch up to a 14/15 year old girl, of Mexican decent. That was probably the biggest struggle so far was making it up that 10ft wall because it was at a 90 degree angle but I got up it. Now living outside OKC, very rural. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Anyone who remembers me please reach out. Roger Lichfield is apparently going to be running one of his Daddys new schools soon. I am not so sure this is actually a survivor sounds more like a former staff member to me. I wonder if the place is for sale? Cascade school for a year and a half til I told em to just take me to juvy cause I was done with the BS. This included the confiscation of my black and purple polka dot underwear. I too was in Serenity. What! Also the hobbit what a joke i had locked myswlf in the porta potty cause i didnt wanna go back in. Brain washing and like a cult. I didnt want her to catch a ride with a stranger. Thank God the program is shut down!!! Who are these two ex cop guys?? which is why nobody talks about it. We have a group on Facebook: WWASP Survivors. I tried to comply once against my better judgment. They made us build fort style fences around the staff cabins and lay rock gravel pits.